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OpenHPC TSC (regular) - Wed, 07/29/2020 8:00am-9:00am #cal-reminder

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [OpenHPC TSC] Advice on responding to Twitter DM

Curry, Matthew Leon
 

The person running that account is looking for ammo to go after a bitcoin mining company (Northern Data). They want an opinion from a respected entity that they can cite.

I would not engage with them.

Matthew

On Jul 23, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Neal Caidin <ncaidin@...> wrote:


Thanks Derek. I responded that it was out of scope, that I was the non-techie (which is relative, of course) human monitoring the account, and asked if they were aware of the OpenHPC mission. And I said here is something from one dev's perspective. What you wrote made perfect sense to me, btw.

Best,
Neal



On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 3:13 PM, Derek Simmel dsimmel@... wrote:

This is out of scope for OpenHPC, but the answer to the question, in my opinion, is:


"No, Bitcoin Mining is not Providing HPC Solutions. Bitcoin Mining is one specific application that could make use of HPC resources designed to accelerate it. HPC can be applied to thousands of different computational applications. "Providing HPC Solutions" implies the design, engineering and implementation of appropriate HPC systems to meet the needs of many/different computational applications. If you are only building HPC solutions for bitcoin mining, then that's what you should say."


- Derek


> On Jul 22, 2020, at 8:14 AM, Neal Caidin <ncaidin@...> wrote:

>

> Hello TSC folks,

>

> I was wondering if you could help me with a Twitter direct message that has been received by the OpenHPC twitter account (https://twitter.com/OpenHPCcomm) ?

>

> Received a direct message from - https://twitter.com/btcking555

>

> 'Dear OpenHPC, quick question: “is it correct and not misleading to refer to Bitcoin Mining as Providing HPC Solutions ?” Thank you in advance'

>

> My thinking is that this is out of OpenHPC's scope to comment on. Do you agree? How would you respond? Should we ignore?

>

> Thanks,

> Neal

>

>

> --

> Neal Caidin

> Program Manager, Program Management & Operations

> The Linux Foundation

> +1 (919) 238-9104 (w/h)

> +1 (919) 949-1861 (m)

> ncaidin@...

>

>


---

Derek Simmel

Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center

dsimmel@...

+1 (412) 268-1035







Neal Caidin
Program Manager, Program Management & Operations
The Linux Foundation
+1 (919) 238-9104 (w/h)
+1 (919) 949-1861 (m)


Re: Advice on responding to Twitter DM

Neal Caidin
 

Thank you Stephen! That is useful to know.

Best,
Neal



On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 1:27 PM, Stephen Harrell sharrell@... wrote:
I am not sure what the ramifications of responding are, however, from a technical point of view bitcoin mining would probably be characterized as HTC (high throughout computing), not HPC, as it is an embarrassingly parallel problem.

-stephen

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 7:14 AM Neal Caidin <ncaidin@...> wrote:
Hello TSC folks,

I was wondering if you could help me with a Twitter direct message that has been received by the OpenHPC twitter account (https://twitter.com/OpenHPCcomm) ?

Received a direct message from - https://twitter.com/btcking555

'Dear OpenHPC, quick question: “is it correct and not misleading to refer to Bitcoin Mining as Providing HPC Solutions ?” Thank you in advance'

My thinking is that this is out of OpenHPC's scope to comment on. Do you agree? How would you respond? Should we ignore?

Thanks,
Neal


--
Neal Caidin
Program Manager, Program Management & Operations
The Linux Foundation
+1 (919) 238-9104 (w/h)
+1 (919) 949-1861 (m)
--
Stephen Lien Harrell
Engineering Scientist, HPC Performance and Architectures
Texas Advanced Computing Center
The University of Texas at Austin
765-201-4408
ORCiD: 0000-0001-5327-525X


Neal Caidin
Program Manager, Program Management & Operations
The Linux Foundation
+1 (919) 238-9104 (w/h)
+1 (919) 949-1861 (m)


Re: Advice on responding to Twitter DM

Neal Caidin
 

Thanks Derek. I responded that it was out of scope, that I was the non-techie (which is relative, of course) human monitoring the account, and asked if they were aware of the OpenHPC mission. And I said here is something from one dev's perspective. What you wrote made perfect sense to me, btw.

Best,
Neal



On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 3:13 PM, Derek Simmel dsimmel@... wrote:

This is out of scope for OpenHPC, but the answer to the question, in my opinion, is:


"No, Bitcoin Mining is not Providing HPC Solutions. Bitcoin Mining is one specific application that could make use of HPC resources designed to accelerate it. HPC can be applied to thousands of different computational applications. "Providing HPC Solutions" implies the design, engineering and implementation of appropriate HPC systems to meet the needs of many/different computational applications. If you are only building HPC solutions for bitcoin mining, then that's what you should say."


- Derek


> On Jul 22, 2020, at 8:14 AM, Neal Caidin <ncaidin@...> wrote:

>

> Hello TSC folks,

>

> I was wondering if you could help me with a Twitter direct message that has been received by the OpenHPC twitter account (https://twitter.com/OpenHPCcomm) ?

>

> Received a direct message from - https://twitter.com/btcking555

>

> 'Dear OpenHPC, quick question: “is it correct and not misleading to refer to Bitcoin Mining as Providing HPC Solutions ?” Thank you in advance'

>

> My thinking is that this is out of OpenHPC's scope to comment on. Do you agree? How would you respond? Should we ignore?

>

> Thanks,

> Neal

>

>

> --

> Neal Caidin

> Program Manager, Program Management & Operations

> The Linux Foundation

> +1 (919) 238-9104 (w/h)

> +1 (919) 949-1861 (m)

> ncaidin@...

>

>


---

Derek Simmel

Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center

dsimmel@...

+1 (412) 268-1035







Neal Caidin
Program Manager, Program Management & Operations
The Linux Foundation
+1 (919) 238-9104 (w/h)
+1 (919) 949-1861 (m)


Re: Advice on responding to Twitter DM

Derek Simmel
 

This is out of scope for OpenHPC, but the answer to the question, in my opinion, is:

"No, Bitcoin Mining is not Providing HPC Solutions. Bitcoin Mining is one specific application that could make use of HPC resources designed to accelerate it. HPC can be applied to thousands of different computational applications. "Providing HPC Solutions" implies the design, engineering and implementation of appropriate HPC systems to meet the needs of many/different computational applications. If you are only building HPC solutions for bitcoin mining, then that's what you should say."

- Derek

On Jul 22, 2020, at 8:14 AM, Neal Caidin <ncaidin@...> wrote:

Hello TSC folks,

I was wondering if you could help me with a Twitter direct message that has been received by the OpenHPC twitter account (https://twitter.com/OpenHPCcomm) ?

Received a direct message from - https://twitter.com/btcking555

'Dear OpenHPC, quick question: “is it correct and not misleading to refer to Bitcoin Mining as Providing HPC Solutions ?” Thank you in advance'

My thinking is that this is out of OpenHPC's scope to comment on. Do you agree? How would you respond? Should we ignore?

Thanks,
Neal


--
Neal Caidin
Program Manager, Program Management & Operations
The Linux Foundation
+1 (919) 238-9104 (w/h)
+1 (919) 949-1861 (m)
ncaidin@...

---
Derek Simmel
Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center
dsimmel@...
+1 (412) 268-1035


Re: Advice on responding to Twitter DM

Stephen Harrell
 

I am not sure what the ramifications of responding are, however, from a technical point of view bitcoin mining would probably be characterized as HTC (high throughout computing), not HPC, as it is an embarrassingly parallel problem.

-stephen

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 7:14 AM Neal Caidin <ncaidin@...> wrote:
Hello TSC folks,

I was wondering if you could help me with a Twitter direct message that has been received by the OpenHPC twitter account (https://twitter.com/OpenHPCcomm) ?

Received a direct message from - https://twitter.com/btcking555

'Dear OpenHPC, quick question: “is it correct and not misleading to refer to Bitcoin Mining as Providing HPC Solutions ?” Thank you in advance'

My thinking is that this is out of OpenHPC's scope to comment on. Do you agree? How would you respond? Should we ignore?

Thanks,
Neal


--
Neal Caidin
Program Manager, Program Management & Operations
The Linux Foundation
+1 (919) 238-9104 (w/h)
+1 (919) 949-1861 (m)
--
Stephen Lien Harrell
Engineering Scientist, HPC Performance and Architectures
Texas Advanced Computing Center
The University of Texas at Austin
765-201-4408
ORCiD: 0000-0001-5327-525X


Advice on responding to Twitter DM

Neal Caidin
 

Hello TSC folks,

I was wondering if you could help me with a Twitter direct message that has been received by the OpenHPC twitter account (https://twitter.com/OpenHPCcomm) ?

Received a direct message from - https://twitter.com/btcking555

'Dear OpenHPC, quick question: “is it correct and not misleading to refer to Bitcoin Mining as Providing HPC Solutions ?” Thank you in advance'

My thinking is that this is out of OpenHPC's scope to comment on. Do you agree? How would you respond? Should we ignore?

Thanks,
Neal


--
Neal Caidin
Program Manager, Program Management & Operations
The Linux Foundation
+1 (919) 238-9104 (w/h)
+1 (919) 949-1861 (m)


Cancelled Event: OpenHPC TSC (regular) - Wednesday, 15 July 2020 #cal-cancelled

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Cancelled: OpenHPC TSC (regular)

This event has been cancelled.

When:
Wednesday, 15 July 2020
8:00am to 9:00am
(UTC-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
https://zoom.us/j/773628205

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Hi there, 
 
OpenHPC Project is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. 
 
Topic: OpenHPC TSC bi-weekly (Regular)

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OpenHPC TSC (regular) - Wed, 07/15/2020 8:00am-9:00am #cal-reminder

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Reminder: OpenHPC TSC (regular)

When: Wednesday, 15 July 2020, 8:00am to 9:00am, (GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:https://zoom.us/j/773628205

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TSC meeting cancelled for July 15

Karl W. Schulz
 

Hello TSC meeting attendees,

I apologize but I have a conflict during this week’s meeting time and will cancel our meeting for tomorrow July 15.

See you again in two weeks.

Thanks,

-k


Upcoming Event: OpenHPC TSC (regular) - Wed, 07/01/2020 8:00am-9:00am #cal-reminder

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Reminder: OpenHPC TSC (regular)

When: Wednesday, 1 July 2020, 8:00am to 9:00am, (GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

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Upcoming Event: OpenHPC TSC (regular) - Wed, 07/01/2020 8:00am-9:00am #cal-reminder

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mopish followup from last TSC meeting: module example setup

Karl W. Schulz
 

Hi TSC Folks,

Following up from our most recent TSC meeting discussion, I wanted to follow up with subsequent changes for the mpich packaging in 2.x.  As we discussed, it is conceivable a site would want to have both a ucx and ofi (libfabric) variant installed at the same time for mpich.  We do not really want to change the module name exposed to the user (mpich), so that means we need to associate the underlying transport layer with the version.  Consequently, I have an updated mpich build that does this and will highlight the latest config below.

Consider a case where we want both variants installed. In that case, an admin installs two packages. After the fact, we see:

sms001:~ # rpm -qa | egrep 'mpich-(ucx|ofi)-gnu9-ohpc'
mpich-ucx-gnu9-ohpc-3.3.2-14.1.ohpc.2.0.x86_64
mpich-ofi-gnu9-ohpc-3.3.2-12.1.ohpc.2.0.x86_64

Then, and end user will see both variants demarcated with “ofi” or “ucx” in the module versions for mpich.  With no additional specification by the site admin, the ucx variant would be the default chosen by lmod:

ohpc-test@sms001:~> module avail mpich

------------------------------------ /opt/ohpc/pub/moduledeps/gnu9 ------------------------------------
   mpich/3.3.2-ofi    mpich/3.3.2-ucx (D)

  Where:
   D:  Default Module


However, we can provide addition lmod-default packages that a site can use to set ofi as the canonical default. Here is an example to choose ofi:

sms001:~ # zypper install lmod-defaults-gnu9-mpich-ofi-ohpc

This will setup a default soft link file in /opt/ohpc/pub/moduledeps/gnu9 to choose the latest UCX variant:

ohpc-test@sms001:~> module avail mpich

------------------------------------ /opt/ohpc/pub/moduledeps/gnu9 ------------------------------------
   mpich/3.3.2-ofi (D)    mpich/3.3.2-ucx

  Where:
   D:  Default Module



I have updated the MPI discussion in our recipes to reflect this example as well and to highlight that we are using ucx/ofi for the mpich and openmpi builds.  Attached is a copy of updated text for that discussion.

I believe this meets the desired requirements put forth in the last TSC meeting and will proceed forward with this approach for the RC1 release. However, if you have suggestions, comment, or can think of gotchas with this particular approach, please chime in on this thread and we can discuss further.

Thanks,

-k



Upcoming Event: OpenHPC TSC (regular) - Wed, 05/20/2020 8:00am-9:00am #cal-reminder

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